i’m doing it because I want to make the fediverse more friendly place, in hopes of making it more welcoming for new users, and the nicer place in general. But I wonder how much is just less bots.
I’ve seen more instances of “you’re right, I’m being a dumbass” than I was prepared to.
The Old Place put a patina of grime on my soul. People are alright here.
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And downvotes especially don’t mean anything since they aren’t even enabled on blahaj.zone :)
This is one thing I’ve been trying to figure out, I keep hearing this a lot. What exactly is different with the upvotes and downvotes? Do they not bury comments and posts or something? Serious question just trying to be informed
At least in the app I’m using there is no cumulative score for your upvotes/downvotes, so people don’t care about it.
Also comments don’t seem to get hidden due to downvotes thankfully. That was always a stupid system.
Tbh I wish that the comment voting system didn’t exist, or that to downvote you had to write a legit reason why, and everyone could see the votes and reasons. Shit reasons would take away your ability to downvote temporarily, extending further the more you do it. Too many people just use it as a disagree button.
It feels like I’m talking to real humans. Not some ultra sensitive sissy all the time. It’s just so much less mentally taxing
Oh there here in places, I dip in and out of some places and I’m like eeeehhh I might not comment there for a bit lol.
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas. I’ll bet you couldn’t pour !@#$ out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won’t go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You’re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly. You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusional self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake? You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral[size] equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meat slapper. On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lager lout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oink artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away. I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I’m sorry. I can’t go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don’t have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well… it didn’t really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective… Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us ”normal” people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are ”challenged” persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn’t have been ”right”. Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you. P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally NOT GOOD.
My God. It’s almost Shakespearean
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It’s almost like all the nice people with actual moral compasses have ditched Reddit for the likes of Lemmy, Tildes and Kbin. Reddit has been left to become a toxic shitshow.
Every platform is nice at the start, for mainly the reason you say: people who join early have an interest in the platform, so we actually try to keep it nice.
Then every successful new platform gets its own eternal september. A large influx of people who don’t care about the platform at all, they just want to use it to talk to people. And of these, yes many are still nice people, but also many aren’t.
You see this in all kinds of communities, not just online. If you’re in a new or niche hobby, everybody there will have an interest in improving the hobby and the small community, so it will probably be very nice. When it gets mainstream (I’m looking at MTG here, but other people probably know other examples) then it starts to attract people who do nothing but complain.
Honestly the issue isn’t Reddit, it’s just people. Most people are decent to great, with a smaller group of bad to horrible. With more people on Reddit the pool of bad to horrible is bigger, and they tend to be the loudest of the bunch.
It’s the same crowd and over time they will be identical. The power of moderation is the only thing that keeps nastiness in check.
I think it’s a night and day difference, I can actually post stuff here without getting attacked over some triviality.
I believe its mostly a product of the much smaller community. I think more negativity may creep in as popularity increases.
Anyway, yeah, have an upvote.
omg omg two spaces after a “.” unacceptable. My disapointment is immesurable and quite frankly my day is ruined. /s (I know that it can be old-school formality, and honestly I don’t really care, just jokin’)
I find that, for no apparent reason, I keep getting those double spaces after periods, but only when on lemmy, and only on my phone, meaning somehow lemmy breaks my autocorrect
I’ve started seeing the Reddit creep of petty Actually Guys arguing pointlessly to someone about the most dumbest shit and trying to be all high and mighty for it, like any of the discourse matters.
That was one of the best part of leaving Reddit; not having some insecure someone try to one up and fight you for saying, “Haha! Rabbits are cool!”
I’ve learned to just ignore them and continue interacting with people who mean well. Let them argue over petty constructs.
Have you talked to the Atheists on here? Cantankerous bunch. They’ve been in their little bubble for so long they get triggered by the slightest perceived critique of capitalist materialism.
Man have you talked to the Tankies? They attack you even if you try to promote the idea of Socialism (while applying flawless historical materialism). Some people just value circle jerking higher than the exchange of ideas.
Disagreeing with someone and still acknowledging the other perspective as ‘correct from their perspective’ just isn’t something that that online communities can foster that easy. It requires effort and imo a kinda ‘small’ number of users.
This just happened to me. Even tried to use Albert Einstein as a “see, Socialism can work” even though the topic was about tankies specifically. It felt like gaslighting so I stopped engaging.
Wait. What does atheism have to do with capitalist materialism?
How does my belief, or non belief, in god affect my lust for a Playstation 5.
I don’t think they’re against atheism. It’s just the stereotype that online atheist communities tend to be insufferable, and, I’ll say it, holier than thou.
As someone who holds some opinions which don’t directly fit into the mainstream on Lemmy, I actually feel like people have been more aggressive to me when I share my opinion here when compared to Reddit. I will admit, I think I was also too aggressive in some of my interactions due to this unfortunately.
It’s tough because I hate Reddit for ideological reasons, and have been hoping for a viable alternative for a while, but now that it’s here I feel like it might just not be for me.
Hopefully as it grows it will become better in this regard.
This is a very leftist online space. And proudly so. And it’s not like there’s a lack of disagreement among leftists. But any vagueries about having “controversial” opinions is gonna come across as fascist dogwhistling or at best liberal snobbery.
If you truly want a “leftist” online space lacking disagreement, you’re just asking to be put in an echo chamber. Differing opinions are important and should be encouraged - hell this is one of the core principals of democracy.
The only opinions I don’t respect are those advocating violence or violating basic human rights.
I hate fascism and I honestly don’t know what liberal means in this context since “leftists” seem to use it as a catchall term often.
Lol the fact that you think leftism is small and unified enough to be at risk of becoming an “echo chamber” shows just how little you know about leftism.
Concisely, liberalism means capitalists who think that capitalism is a “free”, “democratic” and “equal” system. Some liberals think its flaws can be ironed out with regulation and reform.
Leftists aren’t just socially progressive. They’re also anti-capitalist. And no amount of “debating” is gonna change that.
Btw
Differing opinions are important and should be encouraged - hell this is one of the core principals of democracy.
sounds a lot like Musk lol. But least you unambiguously stated you hate fascism, even though I’m not really sure what you would even define as ‘fascism’…
Sorry I misread your comment, I thought you said leftists lack disagreement, while also claiming it’s a good thing. I don’t think leftism is small and unified (that’s why I put it in quotes in my comment, since I assumed you actually meant a small subsection of leftists).
Also, while I honestly despise Musk, if he truly believes that (I doubt it), then I agree with him.
I probably define fascism the same as you, no need to be passive aggressive.
no need to be passive aggressive.
Mate, you were confrontational in the first place lol, no need to tell the other guy to calm down, he’s not an idiot, he knows what you initially assumed of him obviously.
What kind of opinions?
I’m not sure how to answer that honestly
As in what opinions are causing arguments.
Edit: ah, you’re a Christian. Yeah if I’m being honest I hope most Christians stay out of here. Relgious folks as a whole honestly. Don’t need the toxic rhetoric that they bring to the table, with everything happening in america. I don’t think any Christian should be surprised to find themselves hated by less religious folks.
This is exactly what I’m talking about - I’m not Christian, I think Christianity is extremely bad (hell, one of my only two posts is a song by Greek Black Metal band Rotting Christ).
People just assume the worst if they don’t agree slightly with your opinion.
Edit: accidentally replied to this twice instead of your next reply.
Well I can tell you you have a blind spot when it comes to Israel. That seems to regularly cause arguments.
Have you considered that maybe you have a blind spot?
The majnstream opinion on a subject is not always the correct one.
Anyway I don’t want to argue about this, let’s just agree to disagree.
No, I’m not gonna agree to disagree. But I am willing to leave it at you’re wrong.
Well the basic rule of persuasion is to state what you agree with already, I assume an arguement can be productive and civil if you follow a similar pattern. State your points of agreement, then the diagreement.
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If you think mildly infuriating is agitation community then you just wait until you see public freakout
Where I see most of the “toxic redditisms” is in political communities. So far I’ve been blocking them as they pop up on my feed, and it makes the experience much more enjoyable/cordial.
There is no concept of karma, or karma whoring here. And no reward system or reason to farm karma to pretend to be a RealLiveHumanPerson with feelings.
not yet anyways.
I personally like looking at the number of posts and comments I’ve made rather than karma (I can’t even see karma tbh, but iirc some apps can display it, it must be available under the hood somehow or the app is just calculating it idk).
